When is posting a photo on Xomba ILLEGAL?


When is posting a photo on Xomba ILLEGAL?

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There has been some discussion of late about what constitutes the legal use of photos in Xombytes and Xomblurbs, especially given the popularity of Vanessa Hudgens and other celebrities. Under the laws of the United States, photos found on the Internet are generally put into one of two categories: fair use and copyrighted.

Under "fair use", the law recognizes that photos whose copyright has expired (before 1922) and photos pulled from websites which explicitly allow for free use of its photos for whatever use.

Under "copyrighted", the law recognizes the right of the website and/or taker of the photographs to designate use of the photos. Sometimes the copyright notice will be found next to or on each photo that is posted or there will be a general copyright notice at the bottom of each webpage or just on the homepage.

Copyrighted photos, given that they belong to someone else, are not legally allowed to be posted on other websites, including those like Xomba, where the users of this website submit Xombytes and Xomblurbs for profit. Ignoring copyright laws can subject the user and the website to legal action.

How are we supposed to know the difference on what we find on the Internet, especially if we are not from the U.S. or haven't written for the Internet before? I have linked an article written for the benefit of teaching staff in schools about what constitutes copyrighted photos found on the Internet--things students might use for stories and term papers. After reading it myself, it is very appropriate here. The nice thing about it is it gives examples.

This is not my website, true, but I am part of the Xomba community--as are we all--and each of us has a responsibility to ensure that Xomba is not left open to lawsuits and other legal action due to our own actions.

Keep in mind that Xomba's own TOS prohibits plagiarism from other websites, so it doesn't matter whether the plagiarized work is a photo or text--it's still stealing.

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Idlewild's picture

Not to mention...

..the thousands of posts that direct people to sites where they can illegally download and/or view movies. These posts seem to clearly violate both Xomba and Google AdSense rules.

I think it would be good to have a ruling from Xomba Central once and for all about what is OK and what isn't.

angelskates's picture

Copyrights and Plagiarism

It is not necessary for a photo to have a copyright notice. With or without the notice, that photo is the artistic work of the person who took the photo.

The best policy is not to copy a photo unless you have permission from the photographer. Just post a link to it. It is legal to post a link to copyrighted work.

The laws about copyrights and photos are very clear, whether the photo is found on the internet or in a magazine or taken in your local photo studio by your family photographer.

Just as the rules about plagiarism are clear. Don't cut and paste or copy someone else's work. Write it yourself in your own words.... not theirs.

The laws concerning the linking to movies and other copyrighted works are a bit murky. There are some court decisions pending and I am sure that the situation on the internet will be clarified in the near future.

My understanding of the links to movies is that linking to them does not violate Google policies, just as linking to a photo does not violate their policies... that it is legal to provide the links.... not legal to host the downloads.... I believe that is why Xomba allows people to post the links... because Xomba is not hosting the downloads....

At least that is my understanding.....

Angel

jdubhub's picture

I'm glad there will be a clarification...

Some people here seem to exist solely to post such links, which is stretching the definition of "writing community" just a tad.

If the courts decide that downloading media without paying for it is illegal, then linking to it would surely be illegal, just as it would be illegal to tell people where to buy street drugs (using addresses as opposed to what to look for in general) or how to whack somebody.

On the plus side, I've seen many users taking the mature step in just providing the link to the photo or photos instead of lifting them from the host site and posting them here. I certainly see that as being legal because it is not taking money out of the pocket of the copyright holder, in contrast to people who misrepresent the photos as being their own work product and marketing them to get clicks.

Once I get my websites going in the next couple of months (almost have the themes worked out), then I will be pursuing permission to put up certain copyrighted works, in addition to creating my own works to be copyrighted.
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Idlewild's picture

Linking to illegal movie downloads

...is against Xomba rules, as far as I can tell.

#19 in its posting policies specifically prohibits "Content which promotes or condones any criminal activity or provides instructional information about illegal activities including... copywright [sic] or patent infringement." Saying "Download/watch [movie, TV show] here" and providing a link sure sounds like promoting and condoning to me.

As far as posts that exist solely to provide links, that's why xomblurbs were created--to offer bookmarks, links, etc. A xomblurb doesn't even have to have two words of text.

I personally think xomblurbs are unnecessary... as jdubhub says, they don't make a lot of sense in a "writing community." Xombytes only have to be 25 words, which is a pretty easy requirement to meet.

harry24's picture

Let us not attempt to interpret

the rules the way we want others to behave here.Xomba has framed the rules by taking into consideration all these and they are pretty clear and straight.

I would like to quote my friend Idlewild's own words here.

"If there is a certain amount of content on this site that you feel violates the rules, it is likely that the Xomba staff is aware of it, and has decided it is acceptable.

People who have been on Xomba for a while have experience in posting content here, and seen many changes in the site and its rules, partly in response to issues about acceptability of content, etc. And any rules in any organization are subject to interpretation by the management that has created those rules. You may interpret the rules one way, but that doesn't mean Xomba interprets them that way."(http://www.xomba.com/maria_sharapova_crotch_shot_is_exhibit_b_in_court_case_vs_japanese_adman#comment-13103)

P.S.:- (This post is really thought provoking and worth considering by members.My comments are in reply to the members' comments here.)

Idlewild's picture

You're right,

it is definitely up to Xomba Staff to determine how to interpret the rules. But... it seems that there are some questions that xombies still have about photos and other topics, and it would be helpful if the Staff could resolve these issues once and for all.

For example, some recent posts included photos that the person posting them did not have permission to use. Xomba informed the person that these photos were not allowed because of this, and the photos were later removed (by Xomba or by the person posting them, I'm not sure).

I'm OK with Xomba interpreting things as they wish, but in some cases clarification from them would help. (They do periodically spell out the differences between xombytes and xomblurbs, as this is a recurring problem.)

angelskates's picture

Nick or Dave

Nick and Dave are usually pretty good about straightening things out when they are notified of a problem...

I suspect that with the huge increase in traffic on Xomba, they are somewhat.... ahhhh ... tied up trying to keep the server serving..... which is probably more important at the moment....

At least that would be my best guess...

Angel

Xomba Moderator's picture

Okay, okay.

Yes, I'm aware of the controversey over this.
Nick and I are going to discuss this tomorrow.

Sorry, but I haven't read the whole comment thread, I've got a lot to do tonight.

rawnak's picture

Great eye opener!

This article is a great Eye opener for all of us!